First time I[M21] ever ‘facefucked’ someone[F20] [MF]

As I mentioned in my previous story, I was a bit of a slow burner when it came to getting more typically ‘slutty’ sexual experiences. For me real life really wasn’t like porn, not only was I inexperienced, the women I got with were inexperienced/on the shy side too. At this point in my life I had been having sex for a few years now and I had never fucked without a condom (even though I previously had a girlfriend) or even . Looking back now, I see it was actually good for my sexual development since I appreciate it now so much more when someone does open up and lets me into their more adventurous/slutty side.

This story was a while after my first relationship and when I was starting to become a bit more of a man-whore.

I was at university and for the past few months I had been getting quite friendly with this girl in one of my courses. . Let me tell you in our class she was actually a relative bombshell. Nice body, confident but really cute at the same time and spoke incredibly well.. In our lecture of about 60 people (90% guys), the other guys gave her a lot of attention. Realistically, we only really became friends because we got paired up in our first lab session and we hit it off because we were both into anime and we were from the same city so we could relate to each other quite well.

A mother in-law’s unexpected journey Part nine.[M4F] Terry at the bbq

Bernie woke to find a pink stain in her knickers while she was changing and getting dressed. She wasn’t sore, more tender than anything. Padraig better be grateful, after all she didn’t want to do it, but did anyway. There was many a thing she’d contemplate doing, fantasizing about but anal wasn’t one of them. The dirty talk last night really turned her on though she had to admit. Talk was cheap and she’d never dream of having a threesome, Jesus at her age, it was just crazy, but she liked to imagine it. She had for many a year. Her and two strangers…Jesus snap out of it Bernie. Catch yourself on. She went down and boiled the kettle. Soon Padraig appeared and asked how things were, was she ok after last night and replied all’s grand. She asked if he enjoyed it and he told her how it felt inside her arse, how tight and pleasurable, he then whispered in her ear how she was like his own fuck toy. Bernie liked the talk. Niamh was her flesh and blood, she’d die for Niamh, so she seen this as looking after Niamhs marriage. Keeping Padraig happy, kept their marriage alive. She was turned on by names he called her. Fuck toy..made her feel slutty and she loved it. They talked briefly, talked about the end of summer bbq up at Donnellys on Sunday evening and was he working on the Monday as it was a bank holiday, he said he wasn’t sure what was happening. He’d leave it up to Niamh. Bernie said she’d love to see him there. She was buying a new outfit for it and said he’d love it. He grabbed her bum, squeezed and said I’d love to ride you right now, she said why didn’t he, Niamh was sleeping, but he didn’t have time. He’d better go. I’ll talk to you later Bernie he said. She replied with I can’t wait.
Terry Mc Starry was every inch the whore master. His promiscuity caused him his marriage and home. He couldn’t help himself. He worked as a sales rep for the meat company Padraig was at. While they didn’t know each other, he’d heard of Terry sexual exploits. He was there east and Midlands rep so he covered Offaly, Meath ,Kildare, Louth as well as Dublin and Wicklow. He was living in Dublin and only was down at the factory once a month to touch base with the bosses. Padraig made his way over to him in the canteen. Got talking, football and hurling to start and then women. He started to tell wild stories about women, married and single, old and young, it didn’t matter. He’d ride the harp of a halfpenny. Interesting thought Padraig. Padraig asked about age limits on how old would e g, he responded with if it’s a pulse it’s fair game. Jesus he was perfect. He didn’t know Padraig or his family. He didn’t know Bernie either. He was only down here for two hours once a month. He asked him would he fancy a one off threesome with a widow who lived in the town, he said no problem, just no gay stuff. Padraig agreed. He said about bbq on Sunday. He could meet her there. Terry said he wasn’t sure if he could make it down, he’d let him know by the weekend. Padraig explained he’d have to convince her and that it would only be a meet up to see if they clicked, Terry understood and passed him his card. Ring me on Friday night. Not a bother said Padraig.
He never opened his mouth to Bernie. He just went about his business, looked about Niamh that week. On the Thursday evening when he went to collect Niamh the three of them were all talking. Cahir was out on the lash, and Niamh suggested they go to the bbq for the craic. Even just to show there face for an hour. Padraig agreed. He then asked Bernie could he use her toilet and she said don’t be silly, he didn’t have to ask, he then said to Niamh give him a minute and then they’d head home. Ok Padraig. What was really on his mind was blowing his load. He needed to wank, so as he was about to enter the bathroom he changed his mind. He went into Bernies bedroom, he flicked the light on and went to her knicker drawer. He pulled out a pair of satin panties, then went to her wardrobe and found the navy trousers. He laid the garments on the bed and started to pull himself off. It didn’t take long before he shot the load over the trousers and panties. He wiped his dripping cock around the crotch of the trousers. He left everything on the bed. He then went down to Niamh, thanked Bernie for helping and the two of them went home.
When Bernie retired for the night she’d seen what he’d done. Fuck..it so turned her on. She stripped down to her underwear and climbed into bed. She got the wet panties and sticky trousers and rubbed it around and up her cunt, before massaging her clit and cumming herself, leaving the sheets between her legs soaking.. She couldn’t wait to the bbq, couldn’t wait to see Padraig’s face when she’d wear her knew outfit, it would be a Sunday evening as well, bank holiday weekend and getting his cock, what could be better, with that she fell asleep

My [23M] True First time with a Trans Female

TLDR: My tinder date had more than I expected, I didn’t stop.

–This is my story from college last year. I’m reposting because I don’t have access to my old account, I want all the people who followed me to be able to find me!–

Hello everyone, I am 24 and not exactly sure what I’m into. I always thought I was straight into cis women exclusively then I met a beautiful woman who happened to be trans a few years ago. I had no idea which to me at the time was surprising, I always thought you could tell, either from the body type or the way of speech. This experience really confirmed to me that trans people are the sex they identify as. Anyway, the date went really great! We went ice skating and to dinner and had a great time talking. Definitely my best tinder date ever haha.

After dinner we were holding hands walking back to my car and when I opened the door for her instead of getting in she turned to look at me, tell tale kiss me sign, so I did. And we were heavily making out in a maggianos parking lot lol. She broke off the kiss and asked to get into the car so we could talk. I assumed she wanted to go to one of our places to have sex.. I was right but that’s not what she said.

[On request] Ordinary [Indian, interracial, heteroflexible, cuckold, anal, MF, MMMF]

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If you saw Ajay and Ria in a supermarket, you probably wouldn’t give them a second look. They looked like any of the young couples you’d see in a city, late 20s or early 30s, married or possibly living in. 

You’d spot them getting bread and eggs, or a big jar of nutella on a weekend morning and then go about your day. You wouldn’t notice their clothes either, faded sweatpants and tshirts, or Ria in shorts. A conventionally attractive, “decent” couple. The kind landlords thought would probably not party much. And they were right too. They were ordinary and decent, Ajay with his tech job, and Ria with hers in a PR agency. They were batchmates in engineering college and had started dating when Ria had come to seek advice from Ajay before switching her field. A few months later, after a drunken date, Ajay had taken Ria’s virginity in a hotel room. Not like Ajay had been particularly popular with women, but his ex-girlfriend had ensured he wasn’t a virgin. Ajay wasn’t particularly skilled, but years of viewing porn in seedy cafes, on cheap dvds and on mobile screens had given him fodder for imagination. 

Propagation [M/F/M]

I am Queen Traxa, sixth queen of the Swarm. As the queen of the X’Ymthrxa, it is my duty to prolong the propagation of my species.

We travelled for eons, in deep cryochambers to prevent aging, searching for more life in our vast universe. My species are all females, warrior females, and we need male sperm to generate more. The females can take sperm – any sperm – and the resulting offspring will always be a X’Ymtraxa.

We X’Ymthraxaians are proud. We try not to destroy other species, we need them for their genetic materials after all, but more often than not a war will break. While we would gladly wage war, prolonged war is a detriment to my species.

We had a planet. A beautiful planet. How we propagated was by interstellar travels to other worlds in search of males, and when we do find them, we would capture as much as we can and send them back to our world. But all of them would dry up. They could only generate a limited amount of sperm.

25yo “straight” bro – GF’s away and I just came five times from 7″ dildo [M]

oh my GOSH!!!!!
First some context – in general I’m an impatient, stubborn person so when I’ve tried solo anal play over the last four years, I haven’t really felt anything that unbelievable. Sure, having something up my butt when I came felt better than usual, but it was it really worth the extensive cleanup? For me, the answer was no.
So despite owning both a prostate massager and dildo, they rarely saw the light of day. Now, that doesn’t mean my thoughts and desires had changed. I’d get extremely horny reading this sub and hearing others describe the most unbelievable orgasm of their lives. I would try on and off many times to no avail, and had all but sworn off anal play.
That is until yesterday. With my girlfriend out of town, I was edging for a couple hours when I wandered over to the sub. I started to read some recent success stories, all of them preaching getting to the right state of mind, focusing on the pleasure, and not touching your penis.
With no threat of being walked in on or caught, I decided I was going to give this a fair shake and really do it properly. I got all set up in bed, towel down, prostate massager/dildo out with condoms, lube and headphones. Now one thing I did differently than other times was I wore a thong (my own, I just bought it) so I wouldn’t be able to touch my dick. I pulled it to the side when it was time to start playing and had no issues.
Now with my favorite sissy hypo video playing, I was all ready to go. I started with a finger to warm myself up and for the first time ever, finally felt my prostate. I was obviously really excited but remembered to take it slow, enjoy the pleasure. After that I moved onto my prostate massager, which felt good but nothing crazy, though I did start to suck on my dildo at the same time to enhance the mood.
Then came the dildo. My dildo is quite big at 7″ but I was feeling really good and determined to take it. I rolled the condom on and started on my back but quickly moved to riding it. And let me tell you, riding it felt INCREDIBLE. All of the sudden, I felt these sensations I’d never felt before. So I just kept going, moaning through what was an amazing wave of pleasure. It was at this point I began to feel my dick twitching, so I decided to take it out and play with it. And when I jerked it, I couldn’t cum like normal. I would get to the point of no return and feel these unbelievable things from the dildo. Cum would start flowing out of my cock but I could keep going.
I came about five times, with the last orgasm being on another level. I was absolutely spent afterwards and must have stared at the ceiling for what felt like forever. This time, the cleanup was absolutely worth it.
I’m already thinking about the next time I can do this! I’m so excited to have finally gotten here, especially when it felt like I never would!

Use Me [MF] [anal] [cons]

***All characters in this story are 18 years or older***

I wasn’t sure what I was doing there. I should’ve been in my hotel room analyzing why the deal I had put together had just fallen apart.

I’m a mediator (a very good one, I might add), which means I help individuals and companies work through their differences and come to an agreement before the courts and lawyers get involved. That didn’t happen this time.

I had flown out to Silicon Valley to finalize an agreement between two tech companies. Everything was on track until one of the CEOs got cold feet and withdrew the company’s offer. Now we were back at square one.

What did that mean? I had no idea. That’s what I should have been trying to figure out. But I needed to blow off some steam, which is what brought me to this bar a few miles from my hotel.

It wasn’t anything special, but good enough for me to sip a jack-and-coke in a corner booth. I had planned for a quiet and lonely night, a few drinks, and then I’d tackle my problem tomorrow.

Then she walked in.

Daddy’s Eid gift! [FM]

We got into the cuckquean kink during the pandemic and tried it for the first time last year properly after I wanted to indulge into the kink and convinced him to try it. As things progressed we found a cake almost as kinky as us and eventually at new years daddy started dating her fulltime. Which meant that I became a full time cuck. Daddy wanted to up the ante and started constantly edging me without release.

Which resulted in the fact that since new years I have been allowed to have just 3 orgasms. I’ve always been a submissive person even non sexually and the kinky sex life made me even more submissive since I became daddy’s sex slave. Which is why a week or so before valentine’s day, daddy also started denying me his cock and stopped fucking my pussy or ass.

He told me that this year I was going to have less orgasms than I have fingers while constantly edging myself daily. His cock became exclusive fuck toy for his gf’s pussy and ass while I was relegated to being his fleshlight that he uses to masturbate when his gf is not around. Which means he only uses my throat/mouth and tits to cum.

A mother in-law’s unexpected journey Part six [M4F] Padraig’s first one

Padraig awoke to his alarm and lay there. Last night happened and it was down to Bernie, not him. He thought about and felt his cock stiffen. Been a long time since he had a hard first thing in the morning. That was Bernie and he knew he’d be back for more. Fuck it. Why not? A handy ride beat him pulling himself off into Niamhs knickers. He’d rather slide Bernies panties off and fill her instead. Blow his batch in her and not worry about pregnancy. They’d just have to be discreet like Bernie said.
He hit the shower and by the time he went down stairs Bernie was already up and sitting at the table drinking coffee. Kettles boiled she said smiling. She got up to get him a cup. He walked over and grabbed her arse in her silk pyjamas. Fuck her hole was lovely. She turned around and cupped her hand on his groin. He had a new lease of life now. He felt like he could ride for Ireland. He knew they were beat for time because he’d have to be away in five minutes. He said you’ll keep and she replied I can’t wait. She said she loved his cock and couldn’t wait to have it again. He knew she had no panties on because he felt her arse. He quickly slipped his hand down her front and felt her bush. It felt trimmed this time. He slid a finger in. She was wringing wet. Two fingers now and fingered her slowly. She groaned and said he was amazing. He actually loved it. She was bound to be horny after last night. He didn’t lay a hand on her so to speak, and her looking at his cock probably got her juices flowing. Her legs shaked a little before she pulled away and said he better stop before she let herself go and climax. He said fair enough, washed his hands and said he’d talk to her later. She smiled and said not to worry about Niamh, go to work and everything will be ok. With that he headed out and went about his business.
He rang Niamh at lunchtime and asked how things were going. The best she told him. The home help landed in at nine on the dot, then mammy made her some breakfast and then they phoned Paddy Maher for the taxi and headedover to hers. Bernie was making her lunch now and then if it stayed dry they were going to the park for an hour, just to break up the afternoon. He said you do right. Get out and get some fresh air. After that it was all small talk and they said goodbye and she hung up. Roll on Sunday he thought. Roll on till he got into Bernies panties and shag the hole of her, or holes even. Jesus there was a thought. He’d drop it into the conversation sometime they were on there own. Ask her if he could fuck her in that sexy arse. He felt his cock stir. Imagine sliding it in, up her shit pipe as they would have said back in the day when he was younger and full of shit. He’d definitely ask her. It was exciting to think he had this sort of thing going with someone who had as much to lose as him. He went back to work and couldn’t wait to get home to see what the craic was.
When he got to Bernies to lift Niamh he was exhausted. A combination of the weekend drinking and early shout, he’d have no bother sleeping tonight. Mammy kept you dinner if your hungry? He said he was an got tore into it. Bacon, mince sausages and spuds covered in gravey. Bernie asked him could he take her to centra before they went home and he said no problem. Jesus what was he going to say. Of course Bernie. It’s the least I can do. Niamh said grand, she’d be ready when they got back. So they set off and it was quiet for the first minute. He’d need to work up to asking her. How could he get it into the conversation, then she turned and said to him, do you fancy taking to yours now? They could have a quickie and no one would be the wiser. Ahh Jesus Bernie I’m literally fucked. I’m wrecked. Could we leave it? No offence like. She said aye no problem. She just suggested it on the off chance. He thought about Niamh sitting her wheelchair waiting for him while he was balls deep in her mother..aw fuck it wouldn’t be right. They agreed to leave it and focus on Sunday evening. He left the question about anal. Maybe another time. They went and returned in about twenty minutes. Niamh was ready like she said and they headed home.
The rest of the week was pretty much the same. Nothing out of the ordinary. The weekend came and then Sunday arrived. Padraig got himself a box of beer and Niamh and Bernie a bottle of wine. He’d be watching the end of the snooker in the kitchen and they had the living room to themselves. That was the plan anyway. He’d be edging himself while he was wanking during the week. He brought himself close but never cum. He was saving it for Bernies cunt. She didn’t know it but she was going to get a hell of a load up her. Six days worth of spunk and he couldn’t wait. Bernie rang about seven and asked Niamh could Padraig come and get her. No problem she said and he set off. He pulled up outside and hit the horn twice. Yes sir,..He had a full bag and she had no idea. There’d be some mess after he thought. It would be running out of her for a week. With that out she come. What the actual fuck? What was she wearing? Aw she looked every inch the elegant woman. Padraig liked women to be feminine, and Bernie was that. It was mid summer now and a lovely evening. She was wearing a short red cardigan, very light and not something you’d wear in the winter. It came to her waist, and then he thought, where the fuck did she buy them? Did she know what turned him on he thought? It was a pair of navy polyester trousers. Pockets at the front and a little tab and button on her left arse cheek. Fuck… there was a shine of them in the evening sun. They were cutting the hole and fanny of her, could see her camel toe. He regretted not asking her earlier in the week if he could ride her in the arse, but more importantly not havinga wank. Dressing like this and he’d blow in record time. She hopped into the car and smiled and said alright? He nodded and said what do you think with a smile. Do you like my new trousers? Primark on special. Go feel them, there nice to touch. His cock was rock hard. His heart was racing. He pulled away and once they were down the road he felt her thigh. They were skin tight on her hips. He never felt anything as sexy in his life. That week of built up cum just doubled and he couldn’t wait to unload inside her, it might be a mess but who cares.
Bernie sat beside him and enjoyed his hand caressing her thigh. She was a size fourteen but deliberately bought a size twelve so they’d accentuate her curves, especially her arse. She was always complimented on her arse when she was younger. She was about to do something thatshe herself couldn’t believe. She pulled her zip down and pulled the trousers apart and said to Padraig, what do you think? She flashed a pair of red nylon panties, 1980s vintage nylon panties to be precise, that’s how eBay described them. Padraig’s eyes lit up. He swallowed loudly and looked at her and grinned. Yes I fucking do he said. She struggled to get them zipped up again. She looked and felt like she was sewn into them. They looked like they were sprayed on. She could see her camel toe and she felt young again. They pulled up and went in and the night went as planned. About ten o clock Padraig brought in a tray of sandwiches and pot of tea. They had the supper and went up. Bernie said she’d sort Niamh out for bed. You take it easy Padraig. Mammys here to help. Bernie agreed. She said save your energy for work Padraig. It’s a long week. As she turned she gave him a cheeky smile. Niamh headed for the stair lift, Bernie behind her. He had a dull ache at the base of his rod. He knew what it was. Once he cum it would be ok. As Bernie went through the door into the hall behind Niamh she rubbed her bum with her right hand, rubbed it slowly, he could hear her hand against the material of the trousers, jaysus help him. Why hadn’t he wanked before today. Too late now. After about twenty minutes later they both shouted down goodnight to Padraig and he said the same up to them. He made his way out to the kitchen, cracked a can and watched a bit more tv. He tried to blank out what he’d do later on. So Padraig being Padraig beat the cans into him. It had gone one in the morning now and thought he’d make his move. He threw two sausage rolls into the microwave and ate them up with a glass of milk. This was it. He hoped she was still wearing her clothes. He wanted to feel her bum and legs and thighs, he was so horned up now, his cock hurt.
Bernie lay on top of the bed. Listening, waiting. She could hear Niamh snore gently in the other room. Her night time meds and a couple of glasses of wine had knocked her out. She had unzipped her trousers and had been playing with herself. She knew exactly what she had to do tonight. She had to look after him. He had no one really. Just her. Her for his needs and tonight she wanted to show him what she’d do. She would serve him well. She heard the microwave stop and gave it ten minutes. She zipped up and waited. Sure enough within a few minutes the bedroom door opened slightly. His silhouette looking in at her. She put the bed side lamp on and he smiled and said are you ok? She nodded as he stepped in and closed the door.
He made his way over to the bed and lay down beside her. He rolled over to face her and started to kiss her. She loved the smell of stale beer. His hands never left her bum and legs. She was tingling through the trousers. Must have been the newness of them. He got a couple of static shocks of her and they both chuckled. He said how about she get on top and ride him. She said she had a better idea. He looked at her mystified. What was better than that for the both of them? He started to kiss her and slipped the hand down her unbuttoned trousers. He felt the panties over her groomed bush. Then with great ease he slid two fingers into her. She felt already damp on her pubes. She must have been playing with herself he thought. Fair play to her. His fingers travelled around the walls of her fanny. She was seeping juice everywhere. She moaned as if in pain. He said you ok? She just nodded and then started to thrust her hips against the rhythm of his fingers. He thought on something. What if he slipped a finger in her arse. Would she mind? There was only one way to find out. He gently took his hand out and pulled her trousers down. She squirmed and lifted her bum so he could get her trousers off. Them panties were teenage wanking material. Stuff of dreams. He slid his hand down and messaged her bum cheeks and then put a finger at her opening, she froze and stiffened up, no. Not tonight. Maybe another night she said. It was worth try. All the foreplay with her had helped him stave off spunked mess. She then said I’d like to do something for you. His stomach flipped. She told him to get on his knees on the bed. So he did as instructed. She then lay back with two pillows under her head. She told him then to move up in the bed towards her head. His cock was so hard now. It felt like it was splitting at the sides. He gained his balance by putting his hands against the wall. Then she said it. Put it in mouth and ride. He hadn’t prepared for this. Straight up sex is different. Your sticking it in a hole, but the mouth? He couldn’t wait, problem was his cock wouldn’t be the cleanest. He hadn’t washed properly..fuck it. She started to caress his arse and he thought he was going to burst. A dirty cock and a week supply of cum.. He then moved towards her face. He hit her nose with it. He then guided it into her mouth. What he felt was indescribable. Her tongue and mouth was warm and wet. Her tongue rolled around his member, swirling saliva like a hot wash. He then started to push gently in and out. Slowly and gently. He then built up a bit of a rhythm. In and out, slowly but surely building up a nice speed without pushing to hard. He felt a brief tingling deep inside him, and he thought to himself if he went hard now he’d blow a bucket full down her throat. It would be a lousy thing to do, wouldn’t it? and what about his cheesy bell end? It would be a low thing to do…but he might not get a chance like this again, full load and smelly cock or not. Bernie groaned as if he was fucking her cunt. He started to push deeper and her groan changed to a grunt. That grunt was like a green light. He pushed deep again, and again. Deeper and harder and her grunt got quicker, he could feel himself starting to climax. He then just let go and into over drive. It was like doing press ups into her mouth, faster, harder, she gagged and he just pushed deeper. He knew what was coming and asked her would she let him cum in her mouth, she breathed through her nostrils and nodded, there was just one more thing he’d ask her, could she groan again as if she was enjoyed it and she started, moaning and groaning, her body writhing as he pushed his bareback cock in her throat, and then it came out of nowhere. It was like a hundred souls ran there fingers over his entire body, starting at his shoulders and completely enveloping him, her mouth and throat were a sleeve. A sleeve that felt the wrath of his bag. He shot ivory ropes of spunk into her throat, pumping again and again and again. She gagged then groaned again. He felt her swallow against his cock and with that he pushed as hard as he could one last time. She choked and coughed, jizz coming down her nose, white cum coming out of her nose.. his orgasm started to ebb away, a high he never felt before and likely again. He pulled out collapsed in a sweaty mess beside her. His legs were like jelly. She was something fucking else. Imagine meeting her back in the day as a teenager? Bernie sat up and wiped here face with baby wipes she’d brought. Padraig pointed to the door and she smiled and nodded..He got up, made his way over to his own bedroom, closed his door and got into bed. No point even trying to rationalise things, he was a scum bag, end of story. Anything coming his way after this? He deserved.
Bernie cleaned up. She done well. He’d emptied everything he had down her throat. There was hard bits of a grit like stuff in her mouth. Had she cracked a tooth? She took a piece of her tongue with her finger. It was yellow, Jesus Mary and Joseph it was stinking. Her mouth was full of it. She then realised it was smeg. Cock cheese..So be it. It was a price she would pay. She rolled over in the bed and cupped a hand between her throbbing thighs

How I [TF] broke the girl [F]

A little before the pandemic made the world go to shit, I met up with this girl and had the wildest sexual experience of my life. We met on a certain kink website. She’s cute, mid-20s, Asian, ear length cut, about average height and weight, same as I am, though a softer body type to my, I don’t know, kinda of fit look? I wanted to try domming, she wanted to try subbing. Neither of us had any real experience in either, so we were gonna just go with the flow and see what felt right. But up until we met, all our conversation was very casual, matter-of-fact. Our discussions about sexual histories, desires, boundaries, etc. were like a business meeting. I’m over 5 years post-transition at that point in time, and while I’m mostly comfortable with myself, my body and my own sexuality, I never really know about other people’s perceptions of trans people, so I tend to play it very cautious. But every other time I’ve met up with someone, there was at least a lead-up of naughty texts and pics before we did the dirty. None of that here.